'Duck Dynasty' stars call Seattle, San Francisco 'unlivable' under 'woke' leadership

Al said he viewed Seattle as the "perfect illustration" of how abandoning dominion for idolatry leads to "chaos."

"You and I were talking earlier, and you'd sent me a note about this new Seattle mayor who's one of these woke socialist types who's taken over the city and, basically she's just said 'Do drugs in the street,'" he said. 'We've unshackled any idea of trying to have some order in this chaos."

"We have an ordinance in Seattle around drug use and possession. And currently, officers basically use their discretion around when it's appropriate to do an arrest," Wilson said. "You know, we have award-winning diversion programs and those can be invoked before an arrest, before a booking, before a trial… The bottom line comes down to we're looking for an approach which is using the right strategy in the right circumstances and that is making sure that we are getting people the help that they need. And… there's a lot of different situations out there and there's no one-size-fits-all approach. So, that's what we're trying to get to. But we have not made any change in policy."

Al went on to lament what he described as the city's decline during his visits in recent years.

"I went to Seattle for the first time to go on a cruise out of Alaska," he said. "I happened to go every year for the next several years, doing cruises, most of them for work."

"It's a beautiful city," he said. "I was right on the water with great restaurants, and we're like, 'Man, what a beautiful city these people have created here.' They created this little jewel, right up in our Northwest, in Seattle."

"The next year we went, it had lost a little luster," Al continued. "There were a few more things going on in the streets that weren't great. By the end of the fifth year, we were afraid to walk the streets of Seattle. Down where all the tourists are. And like, we just wouldn't even get out of our hotel."

"You continue to watch this progression and see that there is no order," he said. "We've turned it over to creation itself, and it's just becoming untenable, unlivable and unvisitable."

"When you watch that, you can see it in real time over a couple of decades in a U.S. city," Al continued. "Imagine the whole idea of humanity in this framework - what happens when something other than God is in charge, when you take away His order, when you take away His light, and all the other metaphors we've been talking about."

Jase told Al that he had noticed similar declines in other major urban centers. 

"You see that in every city and area that tries this," Jase said. "When you worship and serve the creation rather than seeing creation as something we cultivate, something we steward, something we exercise dominion over, and you flip that script, the end result is always a death word."

"You see the filth," Jase added. "You see the opposite of a beautiful garden that is expanding. Instead, what it is, it becomes a trash dump that is shrinking. Which sounds a whole lot like hell, right?"